CV Surgery with Scale Studio (Sana Tabassum)
By Stephen Drew
April 29, 2022
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Stephen Drew00:03

I recorded. Hello, professional.

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Stephen Drew00:07

I'm going to

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call a few people.

Take some time for them to connect and

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take some time. We'll be just typing aggressively.

Hello everyone.

Sana Tabassum00:34

Hey, how are you?

Good, thanks.

Stephen Drew00:42


Hi. Hey, good to see you.

Sana Tabassum00:54

Stephen, you know, some of us students are so committed when they're sort of our pet 4:00 AM just attending this event.

Stephen Drew01:00

Oh, wow. Oh, wow. I'm a weekend. I mean, I, I tell you what though, the backbone of any CBM portfolio, um, I mean, it's the effort you put into it, what you put into it, you get out and I can always, let me tell you now.

So I've been the part two, I've been the recruiter sifting through CVS. And so in my current role, which we didn't touch upon actually much sauna in our chat before this, but I work now in an architecture practice where I do the recruitment in house. So I see CVS all the time, um, as the client now. So for people working for the team, Yeah, it's really, really interesting because before I would talk about what I think grabs the employer's attention, but now I can, I can tell you categorically the kind of things that, um, I will that stand out in my, in my, um, in my inbox, in my crowded inbox.

And so I'm more than happy to talk about the CV today. Um, the floor is your song that you want to kick it, kick it off, and then I can freestyle and talk about things.

Sana Tabassum02:15

So, um, welcome everyone. Good. Oh, your faces again. Um, I hope you will doing okay. And yeah. Welcome to day six, which is learning all about the CV.

If you haven't already checked out the studio curriculum, we've put a few, you know, tasks and prompts on there already. Don't worry if you're sort of lagging behind a little, we are going to have some catch up sessions soon as well. Um, but if you feel like there's any issues, do you feel free to contact your student mentors by the discord?

Um, but yeah, today's event is essentially looking at CVS good and bad, um, ugly ones, pretty ones. And Steven's hair. He's going to sort of help guide us and give us his expertise as such, but I'll let Stephen sort of introduce himself.

Stephen Drew03:04

Sure. Hey guys. Yeah. Amazing. So thank you all for being here, especially on the Saturday.

So I've been the person looking for a job. I've been the recruiter, and now I work with the directors of an architectural practice, how to find the best people. So, uh, what I want to talk about today, I know it's called the CV Mount, then that's kind of, that's a cool, that's a cool little name for it, but really the, what the success of a CV is getting you an interview and, and for a CV to communicate to an employer, all the valuable things that you do.

So the first thing that I think is really important to think about with a CV, which I never fought of when I was a part one. And part two is you constantly need to think about, um, the fact. What a job is what is a job vacancy? And so a job vacancy is where there's a gap in the architecture practice, where they need someone with certain skill sets to join.

So the practice might have like a way of design. They might look for certain types of people, but a job vacancy means that there's a need for someone there's a need for someone in the business. And so when you're designing a CV, you need to solve that employer's problems because that's the person that they're going to offer the job.

So how do we go about that? So in this kind of crowded world, we need to make sure that you see these really easy to read is, and that people can get the information from it quickly. And that in there that, that now that we've talked about the fact that this CV needs to be accessible, you need to actually showcase your strengths and abilities in a cohesive and quick way.

So being literal, what do I mean by that? So you probably have an email that you will send to Architecture practices and you'll have a center portfolio. And so the CV really is the core document. It's kind of like the star of the show because, um, you can have the most amazing portfolio. The CV sets the scene.

So I always think of it like the portfolio is like the support, an actor or actress, but really, you know, the main star of the show is the CV. And so you really need to quite quickly get across the information about yourself. So I always like to think of who, what, where, when, why, you know, so an employer, they need to look at this document and understand who you are, where you are, you know, when are you looking away and why are you looking?

You know, and I think I missed one out that, Hey we're so let me just freestyle that. So who are you? So I am Stephen trail. I am a part to Architectural Assistant who is available immediately in central London. I am looking for a place where I can work hard, get involved in projects and. And learn and study and learn while I'm doing my part free.

Okay. So I've set the scene really quickly. And then in the document you would kind of put down all the relevant information. So what's relevant. So maybe you would talk about your grades, but probably if you're on like a part, two level, you would try to talk about industry experience. You will try to, you, you would try to show what you did and you part one, and you, you know, you were talking about your grades.

You'll talk about your background and you talk about your software. I mean, that's, those are the kind of the three important things it's industry experience. Then your education is important that doesn't need to take up. Most of the document. Usually your industry experience will be, and also the software should be on there.

And so when you talk about the software, you really don't. Too. I know it's really seductive, kind of go, Aw, shit. I'm going to put like the rabbit logo, but I don't even know what the rabbit logo is anymore. So sometimes I get these CVS and they've got like, um, all the logos of Lumion and stuff. And I'm like, dude, I haven't used the, I, you know, I haven't used that for a while.

And I'm telling you right now that the directors, while we use ArchiCAD in my practice, they don't know what that logo is. So you should never assume someone knows all the information, but you need to be literal. So for example, if you, anyone in this room used AKI cats and you used it for a few years, that's really valuable information to my architecture practice.

So you always want to communicate quite literally the information to get the point across. So when you talk about software, probably you want to put at the top of the list, the ones that are gonna be really important. And that's usually going to be BIM right now because you know, a lot of practices, you know, we use Revvit or Rocky county.

And then you talk about the Canada and the neath and, and then, you know, your 3d modeling software and you can kind of put like words at the bottom because you know, we're on the words, but you want to get that information across. So again, so that will kind of go over the fee rate. I'll recap my theory.

And then Sarno, we can get a few CVS up here, but just remember when you're designing this CV that you are trying to tell that company. So if that company is advertising for a part two and hypothetically, let's pretend, you know, you're a part two. Oh, I'm a part, two of us. Role-players me. My goal in this CV.

As to make it as a plugable to as many architectural practices as possible and to showcase the skills that I have. So if I know rabbit for two years, which I did when I was in industry, then I would, I'd want to communicate that. But it's really important to communicate who you are, where you are. So put down your postcode, make sure that your phone numbers there.

I had a CV the other day that I didn't have a phone number. Do you know? I mean, I was like, what, how do I get ahold of you? I was like, ah, no, it's a nightmare. So you want to put stuff like that down, but you want to set the scene, make sure that you're contactable and then you really want to kind of showcase your strengths and your skills.

So that basically the goal is that I get that employer to ring me. I get them to invite me for the interview because in the interview you'll need. Uh, you know, you need to have that conversation, but the CV is so important to get you that interview. And also it's the stronger, the CVS and the easier it is to use an in the interview, the CV is kind of the conversation piece.

Isn't that it was all like, oh, it says here, you've done two years in rabbit and also references can be great at the end as well. And so you've got one to two references. They were quite important. And there's many other aspects of that, of a good CV, which can be useful as well. I'll tell you another quick thing we put on a CV, try to be as literal as possible.

Okay. So. Uh, I think that it's really important that the CV, you can talk about your interests a bit, but go in with facts, you know? So you want to talk about the fact that, you know, rabbit, you want to say that you've worked on a residential scheme on your part one, you want to say that you went to Manchester university and got a first, you know, and maybe at the end, if some way you can say like, you know, your interests, which may be sports or whatever, a little bit down the corner.

Cause sometimes that can be a conversation piece, but you want this document to really be useful and communicate and information. So what is an example of like a document, which is like a poor use of, um, I guess not very good. So some that had a brilliant one or two examples we had earlier. It might be a good time to bring that up sauna and I can go through em as well.

It's quite funky, isn't it? Oh, at this one or as a good example, right. Which doesn't work for me. So, so VIN, CV, it looks really slick. I really do like this. Right. But what, like, I mean, what are we, what information are we getting from this? So actually the, the most relevant stuff is the work experience, which is like 20% of the page.

You know, I, in the infographic of a, of a, of a, of a Mac in the middle, it's not going to do you any justice. You know, I like the fact that there's been creative, but if you think how much, how much space is you, which is not being utilized to communicate, then it's not, it doesn't work really well. So. Is this, this guy I'm guessing he's a graphic designer, but I have to really work hard to find that.

And like, because, so we can see his contact details he's in Italy, but then let's scroll down a bit. So let's go through and like for instance, this one I was saying earlier, so the software skills now I do know Photoshop. I think that settler straight in design, after effects, I'm guessing like, and, but look are harder to work for that.

It's just insane. And also what does that, what does a squiggly bar mean? She know, I mean, so like four or five is so subjective, you know, four or five on one week or for a five for 10 years, you know? And that's like a big difference. And so if you speak to a BIM Manager is then for so many years that they are usually quite modest, you know, like, oh, I'm okay.

And it's do you know what I mean? So it's like, it's so subjective and you want to get rid of subjectivity in CVS. You want CVS to be factual. So, you know, in this example, I think that also black backgrounds, I think, is a negative because some officers will print them out and that will just hammer the printer.

Do you know what I mean? So there's a few things that do not work here for me. So graphically, it looks nice. That's good. That's a tech black background though. Probably not the best use of the color scheme, but more, the biggest problem with this CV is that it's not, it's good to be creative, but you should play a part in a formula that works.

I mean, that's kind of like an art form in architecture as well. Isn't it to take the mundane and make it interesting, but you don't want. Like this has gone to me too far, so, and you want to, you want to show, Kay, you want to be literal with the stuff there. You don't want any subjectivity. So I don't really know what this guy does.

I know he's got a passion of the basketball. I don't know how long his used, um, illustrator for. And the problem is, is that when I'm in my architecture practice and I've got a brief on right now for an interior designer and I need someone that's done like office space. So let's pretend this guy was an interior designer.

You know, the only bet he says interface and level, and he just says, he's done the development of academic projects. Okay. You mentioned that like all the stuff you guys learned in a year is like insane. And like, actually that bit should be really expanded. So I think that this has substance over, um, you know, this is style over substance.

Sorry. I messed that up style over substance. Right? So you want, you want, you need the substance style. All right. So let's try another one. The SAVAK the safe, he got a good one for me. Oh my God. This, this one's terrible. Let's have a look at this for a second. So, I mean, can anyone use, speak in the crowd or I don't know.

Does anyone want to jump in what you guys think about Magdalena CV?

Well, there's not very much there is there Nat bingo. Who is that? That was me Vince. Hey van. Oh, Vince, like in rock and roll mate. Well, you put your hair up for that snow funds. Get that going. It's like Soundgarden though. I'm getting flashbacks when I saw Chris years ago. Jeanette yet. You're right, man.

It's um, it just doesn't do anything. I mean, this one is probably like the, like the crown of like the worst CV in the world. It's like got no job title. I don't know any contact details. Education's right at the bottom. Um, oh yeah, the contact details are there. Um, okay. And then the interest thing is, is such, um, the skills again, you see always, I think it's good to be literal.

It's good to have, try to get rid of the bars and like the qual qualities. Okay. This is a good topic. I've done it as well in the past. So I go, I am a problem solver. I am a fast thinker. It's like, oh my gosh, man, we all allow, we do part one part, two Architecture. We all got those skills. So try to communicate your qualities with.

The responsibilities that you've done. Okay. So the fact that if you got a two, one, an architecture, that to me, shows that you are creative and you can do it as stuff, or, you know, working any awards that you've done, you know, anything extracurricular is going to be much stronger than saying you're a problem solver.

So I'll tell you a good example. When I was in recruitment, that people who were very competitive and good at sports would be good for that role. I, or for instance, when I'm hiring now, one of the ladies that we hired, she was amazing. And she was really passionate about fine arts and had all this work that she's done.

And that illustrated that she's creative. And then the directors talked about that. So you can, don't say your qualities by just going. I am good at timekeeping. Maybe you would say something like I ran a course, like skate, like saunas run at scale. I mean, that to me requires a lot of coordination, but you see, it's like doing stuff like that.

And I remember, so don't worry guys here is that I remember thinking, oh my gosh. And I, in any sports clubs, I'm not in any thing. I'm just like, you know, um, I dunno, like, I don't know what to do on I've done my part one. I'm just that. But actually I worked in Waitrose at the time and I used to, like, I used to hustle and, you know, flip around check-ins to make money.

And then I also used to do a little bit of graphic design and I used to do it a bit, like I used to think like I was super cool Banksy or whatever at the time. And probably like only two people so are at, but you know, I kind of put that in my CV. And um, one of the T one of the interviews I had, we were talking about like, You know, we were talking about, uh, passions, really, we're talking about graphic design, you know, and then I started saying like my favorite graphic designers and Evelyn Brody and David Carson.

And that's why I've done this and that. And then in Brixton, I did this and basically I got my part, one job for talking about, um, the stuff that I've done and it wasn't me saying I'm a creative. It was like, oh, well actually I I'm interested in this and this and that. And they've built this and that. And they've done things.

So actually, again, it's all about substance. It's not about style. What I, the one thing I do like here is that a Magdalene has talked about languages. If you speak more than one language, it really is worth putting down because sometimes, you know, sexual practices, you can have clients. And if you have like a Russian client and someone speaks Russia, and that that's really good.

And for instance, you know, Mandarin, for instance, you can get a lot of Chinese developers and that they, you know, having that skill sets really useful. So, um, Magdalena wins the award for the worst CV. Can we got a good one? So we'll see if we can have a bit of fun. Okay. a bit better. Yeah. Is better. Um, what I like about this is that there's a bit of a structure that, you know, like the big guys, it's kind of nice of your magic, but it is.

It could use space, whatever, but what's good about this is that it's clearly structured. Now. I don't think that you need to over label things. You know, I I'm well aware that a phone number means a contact detail. And you know, if you talk about yourself, that's the about me section. So don't worry about labeling things too much.

You know, you can, the only thing that you really need to label are industry experience or professional experience like here and education, which I think is good, but you know, the about me section, just jump in the contact section, just jump in. If you want to label off where then okay. And languages, but you do not need to label everything, you know, The important bits, professional industry, experience, education, software, skills, languages, and references be, you know, that's it contact and about me.

You don't need to, you do not need to label them. But what I like about this anyways is that I kind of know where my eye needs to go to. And what you go realize is that when I'm busy, um, you know, it's like, I mean, I, you know, everyone's been on date and apps, right? Come on. You've been on Tinder or whatever you swipe to the left, you swipe to the right.

Okay. It's no different as an employer. What I mean is that I've got distractions, they've got things in the office and you need to grab my attention within five seconds. Otherwise, maybe I, I, you know, I, I miss things, you know, because this is how employers are. And usually you see these coming in through an inbox and they can get overlooked.

So, whereas get about there. So in the five seconds of the swipe to the left or swipe to the right logic, um, instantly see Monica. Okay about heck really quickly. And then I go, my eye goes straight, the professional experience, and then I'll always look at the role at the top, which is like, you know, QK is the draft graphic designer.

But if it was a part two, it would be my part, one experience. And then, because I worked at EPR architects, I would say I was at EPR and I did a residential scheme of commercial. And then, so my eye as an employer would go down there and be like, oh, okay. Okay. Professional experience. This business worked as a part one before.

Must be a part two, good practice, dah, dah, dah. And then I go to scales and I'd see Adobe illustrator. And if so, if, if for instance, a CV came in right now and it goes to scales cause we use Octocat, I'm always looking for AKI CAD. So first thing I'll do is get a professional experience go, oh, okay. This person's like a.

Too. And then I go, okay, archi, cat. That's really cool. And language is that's really useful. And then I'll look at education and I'll be like, oh yeah, Manchester university, for instance, I know that directors come from Oxford Brookes, so they want to admit it, but they have a bias towards Oxford Brookes candidates.

Do you know? I mean, ah, yeah. Okay, cool. And, um, and then from that, basically I've really quickly got a snapshot of who you are, you know, and that's the whole point because in the interview that I can really ask the questions and flesh it out at someone, if they're the right fit for the architecture practice, where I work and you can test that in person, but the whole goal of this document is to get you an interview.

And what's really good is. It am service services, purpose on that because I saw the professional experience really quickly, you know, I can see the software, I can see the education and it just works. And the contact details are there. I want to bring someone up. So it actually functions really well on them, you know?

And so like in this top, when I go, it's like, um, you know, your, your, all the architects of the features, you're all excellent designers. I'm sure. Okay. So. You know, you can have your own magic on the graphic design and, and I'm, you know, I think like my role isn't here is not to kind of say you should be size 12.

You should be because you've got to add your own magic to it. But what, where I do really labor the point. And I think that what I would encourage everyone here to do is I want you to have your own magic, but I, you have to, it's like a, it's like architecture and design. You've got some constraints and there's certain things that really work.

And what I'm saying in terms of the brain, the goal is to get you the job. That's the brief, the brief year is as your architects is to land an interview. And the way you landed into is by communicating your skills experience really quickly. And then you have a little bit of your magic, you know, almost a nice look and see you.

You know, so that's really the goal. That's the way to do it. And w what you want to do as well. I dunno if anyone here, as it's got that, you get the feeling sometimes when things are so polished, you don't pick up on these things, you know, but when things are not polished, you, sometimes you look at the negatives.

So I think of it like virtual reality, the concept of virtual reality, when it's so immersive, you don't get distracted. Right. But the problem is for CVS. When they're good, they just work. Right. But when this thing's wrong, it really sticks out. So the biggest one I'm thinking of, and I'm going to sound like a boring, old fart here is spelling, right?

I'm not that precious about it because I'm not the worst at it. But when I was in recruitment, I would present CVS to my clients or Arctic practices and they would just go absolutely like their spelling, mistake and care. I am looking for an architect has got attention. I'm thinking, oh my God, I've met this person.

They're so good. So then I bring up me like, dude, what are you doing? You CV. So you don't want to be that person. You want to have your spouse spelling tip top. And like, I am the word. I am the worst, but we're in an awesome world right now where there's like a tool for everything. So get that Grammarly, Greg, get all that things going and just make sure that no, one's going to pull you up on it.

You know? So, all right. I'm just trying to think now, do you want to have a look at, have we got, I never example sauna, but we were steamrolling through it and then not anymore.

Sana Tabassum25:35

I don't know. I don't know if anyone actually wanted to share their own and get some

Stephen Drew25:39

feedback from us or be constructive.

Sana Tabassum25:43

This is your chance to do

Stephen Drew25:45


No, one's going to judge you. Yeah, I don't roll. Like I know Bartlett's in the news right now for, you know what I mean? Like don't worry. My goal is to get everyone to get a job. Cool. Lauren,

Sana Tabassum25:57

do you want to, do you want to share yours?

Stephen Drew26:01

Absolutely. I wanted to show, uh, just before showing, uh, I want to say. I learned a lot from stealing like this past couple of years, with all the videos and energy, they are cool, the initial and that is amazing.

So, oh, this zoom is like two and a half years old, so I've not updated after I watched her like written all down, but I want to update it. And, uh, I want to say my problem is like, I have couple of years experience. Yeah. But right now, uh, I'm studying masters like this two months, it will be over. And with all this experience, I am applying for a very basic role and people and they see my resume.

Like, is this even real? Like why, so that sort of having a problem, I just, uh, share, go on. Good for you. Yeah. Don't worry, two months, you'll be back in the real world.

Okay. Okay. Ooh, inception. All. I think I've seen, this is on the, is this on the social? Um, no, I got think I'm going crazy anyways, right. Okay. I mean, if it's functional, isn't it. You've got like, okay. So yeah, the only thing I would do straight away here. Okay. I can see that you say you seek in the role, the intern architect that you from.

Um, you just probably like top of my head, I would just put like, may I'm being a bit crazy, but you know, imagine if you had like your name on the other side, then you could probably like, you know, I'm an architect or, you know, um, And Architectural Assistant. We've got to be really careful when you use the word of intern architect, because that's so subjective.

So like, no, no, like, uh, sorry, the cutoff, but when I'm applying, this was very general. Like, but now when I'm applying, uh, I'll obviously like very much articulate to the, uh, company and everything. Like I learned in art, but still like, uh, after the defendant middle. Yeah. Well, I like that. You've gone in with your like killer punchier of like multimillion dollar residential savor the cheese 25% less work, um, because you, your rev stuff.

So that's really cool. I mean like the professional experience really works there. You've got your most current role. I know you've seen it. It's older, but it's still good. So what I like here, so that's, uh, I think it's really relevant to how I think it's really good for have, like, especially if we've got a lot of overseas art, you know, if anyone's like done work outside of the UK, That's really good.

What you've got to do is you've always got through to the employer kind of backwards engineer in terms that they understand. So for instance, now bone that's great. What I would try to do here is I would start, um, talking about the, the, the work you've done for ruin in, in, in like RIBA stages. So you would say RIBA stage equivalent, uh, one to free, you know, front end, because what that does is it really illustrates that you have an understanding of UK building regulations and Reba.

So you always want to, um, make it as relatable as possible to the UK. Um, especially if you want that job. Uh, I am in Melbourne currently, so. Okay. Maybe it won't apply for me, but yeah, probably not fair, but you know, just a general point. I was just put in my head, I assume, but like, if you're in Melbourne and you're like looking for a job, then that that's great.

There'll be like a graduate architect. So I understand their point, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Well, it, to me, it serves its purpose. You said you were an intern architect in Melbourne. What I like is that you talked about your key responsibilities and achievements to me. That's really good. And you talked about your software, so that does really work.

And then you've got your, your work from K GD in India, which is good, where you're a project architect and you've done shitloads work both on Ws Atkins. So to me it kind of works really well. Um, and you're a bit marketing before. I could tie, I, I was getting tacky vibes. I love em. So that's probably going to be really useful information.

So you kind of really selling the, the, the software that you use, but also your roles and responsibilities. So yeah, I think it works really well. And let's go to the next page, you know? Okay. Part-time experience, fine education. Fine. Yeah. Like edgy, the further you go in your career, you don't need to worry about putting your education at the front that you CV.

Cause you just kind of like once you're a senior architect, then you've done it for years. Yeah. So the only thing I would do is kind of, um, put the, in your newest CV, it's just put the amount of years that you've done using the software. But, um, instead of the, the, the, like the, the dots, but that's it really, I think it's good.

You've got your languages. So to me, it's really functional. Let me go, let me, there you go. So that means. You get a round of applause. There you go. So you go get my food choice. Good works. Uh, but I don't, I know for me it is so scary because, uh, yeah, when I am applying for a very basic role, like, I feel, uh, this is like overqualified.

We don't want to like that sort of the way exam getting, um, wow. It's just real life. Isn't it. It's kind of, you've done this and you know, yeah. You're project architect, but you know, you gotta be positive about him plant. Can't be negative. You gotta be proud of what you've done. It's actually an asset really.

Isn't it. So you think about it, an employer, if I'm hiring for a part two and you're, you know, you're not taking with all that experience, then someone's getting a lot of very good experience for that. So I wouldn't, um, I wouldn't show, I wouldn't undersell what you've done. It's amazing. So you should be proud of it.

But yeah. You know, just if you got a narrative in your CV, I think embrace it so that people understand that. And because what is confusing sometimes as if a, for instance, it was an internship and you were applying for it and you're like, why is project architect applying for it? So you've got to, yeah, I think you've got to be like, really like bang on with your narrative.

So you've got to, you've got to work out the narrative for the CV and you gotta be like, look, I was an architect, you know, I'm in Melbourne just doing my masters now I'm ready for the next step. And that if the next step means this role, then I'm all done. I think like that really explains and sets the scene.

So you've got to set the scene. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks a lot. That's that? Yeah. I, I was always like, uh, hesitant to show this to people. No, it's looks, it looks good. It looks good. You only being, you need to do is set the scene, you know? Yeah. Uh, do you think like too much text? Is it like two mistakes or

I think it's fine. It's fair because you furthering your career. Aren't you? I could tell that from the way the CVS written, um, and, and that's fine. There's no, like one way the, the right way on the CV is the way that when you get a job, right then it's succeeded in its goal, but there are certain things.

So in characteristics that I've seen in CVS of people who get the jobs, do you get what I mean? And I think like that this is fine and it makes sense. But for anyone else in this audience, who's like a part one or part two or different points in their careers, and it's gonna look a little bit different and that's fine.

There's no one way, but there are certain things like no one likes bad spelling, no one likes crazy fans, no one likes 20 Meg files, which won't load. You know what I mean? But this that's okay. So I think you find, I think, have believe in yourself and also, uh, set the scene so that people understand exactly who you are, what you're looking for.

When you look in for. 'cause I, I messed up the way, but that was because my brain makes assumptions. So that's another thing that you did anyways. Great. Thank you for sharing.

Sana Tabassum35:03

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thing, this crazy in the face. I would want to go for my CV since Spanish. I haven't had time to translate it to, maybe you can.

Yeah, I could, I could talk about it on like a layout perspective and also, um, I have always listened to your. Oh, oh, Genoa. Oh my gosh. Good reminder. Thank you. I'm going to put, um, they'll put one up today. It will be fun if you're on clubhouse. I go, I mean, I got a bit tired cause I was like burning myself out, but just so you know, I'm going to put like, I'm going to do a carbo special on like what happens behind the scenes in recruitment so we can have a right.

Get-go at the right. The con let me go the right clubs behind the recruitment, you know, I mean, so we can have a giggle about it, but Hey, in the meantime, let's have a look at your CV. Okay. Um, I don't know if you can see. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. This is really interesting because pictures are risky.

Okay. And so for the, so just so you understand about me, like I'm a gay man myself. Right. But what you've got to be careful, often pictures is that they're so subjective. Right. But I kinda liked this picture because when I saw her and you smiling, it looks good. So it made a positive impression, but people all in their life have unconscious biases and that's something you have to be careful.

Well, so I always imagined pictures or like, it's like the equivalent of like in poker of like doubling down, you know what I mean? It's like, I am who I am and, but my mom and they, so they can work, but they can really distract people, um, as, as well. So I kinda like it. Um, I think it reads wow, but I'm just putting like, uh, like, um, a warning.

No, do you know what I mean? Where I'm like, it can, if for anyone else in the audience to not feel, you need to do a picture, but in this case you go romaine. I was like, ah, so this person seems really friendly. So it kind of, to me, it w it worked anyways. So. Stephen of Architecture, you know, we've got your experience here.

Uh, so experienced in projects. So to me, and then you've got historical academia. Yeah. I mean, you've got your profile and you probably, I think like what I would say here is we got to get the, the length of time you've used the software. That would be really good. You've got your, your, your languages and you've got your contacts.

That's fine. I mean, you could put references. I mean, I go, uh, again, like fully on this thing here, like now in this position, I think like references are so cool, but because they really illustrate that you believe in yourself and other people believe in you and that you can always get one from your tutor.

It doesn't need to be someone that you work with in architecture, but it can help it if you have that. But it goes to be someone that you. You've done something wave. Um, but when I applied, I would do references upon request. So, um, I haven't got, but now in this position I've learned that I think they will be good.

So what I would say is get your software literally on there two years old. Okay. Add, you know, and maybe put Microsoft office at the bottom or Brevard at the top because that's the most desirable piece of software. Um, and then, yeah, I would try to put ref two references on there if you can. Um, I know it's a bit annoying to arrange, but it will pay off trust me, cause I always go, oh, this one's better reference referencing.

And uh, I'm making assumptions here because it's um, because I do not speak, I only speak English. I'm a Welsh man who can't even speak well. It's you know what I mean? So, but I'm gonna, so I'm gonna make the assumption. So historic academia, and then you've got experience at the top. So this one, the top is that industry experience.

Um, I'm still a student, so I don't have like any experience like here I was, um, like a social media manager at this school. I also teach a class. So I just put that there, but it has something to do with Architecture. And then I was like for two months and an intern at a, an architecture studio, that's like very basic.

So no. Well, well we'll look well done. First of all, I mean, like I said, I was flipping check-ins, but they got me the job. And my part one, because I think like, if you, if you worked, it shows that, you know, you've always got to use the stuff you've done. Is there anything here, anyone in the audience here that hasn't worked.

Don't worry. Everyone's got to start from somewhere, but with like this, what I think is great is that you've done something that you didn't have to do. And, uh, I feel so I think that's really good. And you should put it there. I would be