A conversation with Mikki Gillette
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Thank you for joining us on the, uh, podcast Today I have, uh, Mickey Gillette, uh, who I am hoping to have a really lovely conversation with. Um, and just to introduce her, Mickey Gillette is a trans woman and a Portlander. She's the major gifts officer for Basic Rights Oregon, the state's leading LGBTQ2SIA+ policy and advocacy organization. A playwright.

Mickey was named one of the 25 people shaping the arts in Portland by Willamette Week Magazine. Her play American Girl was featured in American theater and was produced by Fuse Theater in April, 2023. Her show, The Queers, enjoyed a sold out run in March, 2022, and her play My Perfectly Valid Objections, finished a sold out extended run with Salt and Sage in February of this year. Mikki's play, They Them Their, is scheduled for production this fall by Fuse Theater. She was a member of the Ashland New Place Festival 2022 New Voices Cohort, and Profile Theater's lGBTQI A plus Community Profile Cohort. You can learn more about her work at mickeygillette.com.

That's M I K K I G I L L E TTE.com. Welcome, Mikki. Uh, how you doing today?

Mikki

Good. Yeah, I'm glad to be here. Thanks for inviting me on the show.

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Oh, my pleasure. So, uh, Sacred Gyre is all about conversations about what people do when they're working for change, and you come up with pressures that might tend to lead you off of your really deep values. And so I'm, I guess my first question for you is, what are those really deeper values that you are attached to and believe in, and how did you come to, uh, believe in them?

Mikki

Uh, yeah. So I think, uh, equality is a real value of mine. Just the idea that people shouldn't receive disparate treatment, you know, based on their sex, based on their race, based on their sexual orientation or gender identity. Uh, and I think that's something that, um, became important to me when I came out as trans and started transitioning, uh, the experience of, you know, being a white person who was kind of forced into identifying as male, it's the. Kind of like in the Lion King, like everything that the sun touches on is yours, . And then when, when I came out as trans, there was just this, you know, sometimes I have an image in my head of like a ski jump where you're just going down at this almost completely vertical rate,

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Mikki

huh, in terms of sort of status and privilege and, and that, you know, the two things that, that experience of feeling like I lost so much in becoming myself, but also thinking about the forces that, um, made it to where when I was growing up, I didn't know there even were transgender people. Uh, and why that was, um, that made me, uh, you know, want to see a more fair equal world and, and want to do what I could to contribute to kind of making the world that way.

Track 1

Yeah, so your own personal experiences in coming out and actually being affected by people's prejudices and fears and so forth, awakened you in a way. But it also sounds like you already came to that with some basic values that just got more awakened or something, is that what you're saying?

Mikki

Yeah, yeah. I, I think that's true. Yeah. Um, and then another value, I guess, might be just the idea that, uh, moving through the world I should, you know, I want to be a kind person. I want to treat people with respect. I don't want to hurt people ruin their days. Um, and that I think that, you know, that was part of my nature already.

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